Diskussioun:Rido

Ech hunn den Redirect Rido elo zwee Mol ugeluecht an den Les Meloures huet en zwee Mol geläscht.

(Läschlëscht); 09:06 . . Les Meloures (Diskussioun | Kontributiounen) huet d'Säit Rido geläscht ‎(Redirect mat falscher Schreifweis)

(Läschlëscht); 09:15 . . Les Meloures (Diskussioun | Kontributiounen) huet d'Säit Rido geläscht ‎(Dem LWB seng Schreifweis enstsprécht a ville Fäll net méi den neie Schreifregelen)

Wat ass dat do da vir eng Manéier virzegoen? Mengs du, du häss et net néideg, esou Saachen ze diskutéieren an kéins dat einfach emole sou decidéieren?

1. net de Lemma vum Artikel "Rido" - dat hei ass just e Redirect
2. de Begrëff gëtt och nach ëmmer heiansdo esou geschriwwen an duerfir ginn et méi wéi genuch Sourcen:

http://radio.rtl.lu/aktiounen/business-news/611023.html http://www.rtl.lu/service/wat-leeft/agenda/96327.html?month=11&year=2014&day=27&dtype=date&to_month=0&to_year=0&to_day=0&keywords=&p=2 http://www.rtl.lu/service/wat-leeft/agenda/97697.html?month=3&year=2015&day=20&dtype=date&to_month=0&to_year=0&to_day=0&keywords=&p=2 http://www.rtl.lu/service/wat-leeft/agenda/97644.html?month=3&year=2015&day=28&dtype=date&to_month=0&to_year=0&to_day=0&keywords=&p=2 http://radio.rtl.lu/emissiounen/reportage/26459.html http://www.tageblatt.lu/kultur/story/Ganz-schoen-pikant-29716098 http://www.monart.lu/index.php/de/archiv http://ettelbruck.lu/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Reider_49_Ettelbruck.pdf http://www.rtl.lu/service/wat-leeft/agenda/98070.html?month=3&year=2015&day=21&dtype=date&to_month=0&to_year=0&to_day=0&keywords=&p=2 an dat do war dat wat ech elo a 40 sekonnen um Internet fonnt hunn

Et gëtt kee Grond, dat hei ze läschen. --Bdx (Diskussioun) 09:38, 19. Jul. 2015 (UTC)

Natierlech gëtt et e Grond an dee gouf op der Versammlung diskutéiert an unanim vun de Wikimataarbechter déi present waren ugeholl, an et gouf och schrëftlech am Rapport festgehalen, datt keng Redirecte mat falsche Schreifweise sollen ugeluecht mol eischtens well se falsch sinn an dann doriwwer eraus och nach op Wikidata falsch Synonymer kënne generéieren.

Falsch Schreifweisen um Internet oder an Zeitunge sinn awer lo wierklech keen Argument datt eppes hei soll falsch opgefouert ginn, a wann ee mengt e misst et maachen da soll en derbäi schreiwen datt et falsch ass. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 09:43, 19. Jul. 2015 (UTC)

Dat heescht et steet an engem Dictionnaire a gëtt an de Medie benotzt. Mee de Les Meloures seet: Nee! Dat ass net eng alternativ Schreifweis mee et ass FALSCH. Ech weess et besser an dat wat ech denken ass Gesetz. Wëll d'Lëtzebuerger Sprooch eng Sprooch ass wou et keng Ambiguitéite ginn a Saachen entweder richteg oder falsch sinn an ech sinn déi Institutioun déi doriwwer entscheet. Pitié, pitié. Awer mir bleiwen an der drëtter Persoun.--Bdx (Diskussioun) 10:00, 19. Jul. 2015 (UTC)

(mien excuses det ich mitreed hie-euver) Ich bön 't einverstenj mit Bdx. 'n Bestumdje spèlling kan waal valsj zeen, meh wen die wuuertj gebroek door hieël väöl luuj, zóllen ouch hieël väöl luuj op die spèlling gaon zeuke. Daoveur is 't wichtig óm waal die valsje spèlling in 'ne redirek te zètte, zoeadet edereine de pazjena rasj mekkelik kan vinje. Zeker wen zelfs instèllinge wie de radio en daagblajer veur 'n "minder-gooj" spèlling keze, zólle väöl luuj genege zeen dees euver te numme. Puur veure vinjbaarheid van 't artikel deit 't det daoveur good daen redirek aan te make; wiejer zal geine zich dao-aan stuuere. (boete Les Meloures mesjiens :P) --Ooswesthoesbes (Diskussioun) 11:28, 19. Jul. 2015 (UTC) (I apologize for interrupting) I agree with Bdx. A certain spelling may be wrong, but when it is used by many people, many people will also make a search with that spelling. That's way it is important to make a redirect in that wrong spelling, so everybody can quickly and easily find the page. Especially when institutes like the radio and newspaper choose for a "less good" spelling, many people will tend to take this spelling over. Just for the accessibility of the article it would be good to make that redirect; it will bother no-one. (except maybe Les Meloures :P)

Dear Ooswesthoesbes, our community decided not to accept wrong spellings, even in Redirects and this decision was notified. Sea please here

Spellings in an encyclopedia shall be correct, even if many media use wrong spellings. We know why the media use it. Its because they use spellcheckers that relate to wrong spelling. In accordance with the developpers of spellcheckers this wrong spellings will disappeaer as fast as they are related. Using wrong spellings can make people believe that this spelling is correct. It cannot be the mission of an enyclopedia to do this. I'm not bothered because I have in this moment not to defend my opinion. I only apply a decision of the community.

Accessibility of the article is not a good example, as for example type in Rid in the search-case the correct lemma appears allready and you need not to search further.

The problem is not only the wrong spelling of one word. In media a lot of words are misspelled and a lot of people such on face-book and so on use wrong spelling. If we shall use all missspellings ass a Redirect only because they appear in internet-text written by people that don't know the correct spelling, than wiki:lb will soon be the greatest dustbin of luxemburgish language.

On the other hand users should before creating redirects, be sure that this redirect cannot be a word having another signification, as it is in this case. For this see Rido, a feuding between families and clans.

--Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 12:32, 19. Jul. 2015 (UTC)

't Is ane Luuksembörgse Wikipedia zien gemeinsjap hie-euver te besloete. Allewiel typ edereine väöl snelder es vreuger en me zal neet nao drie teikes wachte veur te kieke waat de suggesties zeen, mer es 't waord inderdaad 'n anger meining haet, den kan geine redirek bestaon. Dao bön ich mit einverstenj. --Ooswesthoesbes (Diskussioun) 10:34, 20. Jul. 2015 (UTC) (It is up to the community of the Luxembourgish Wikipedia to decide about that. Nowadays, everybody types way faster than in the past and one will not wait to see what the suggestions are after typing three letters. But, if the word has a separate meaning, a redirect cannot exist. I fully agree with that.)